I have a quest. The quest involves answering several related questions. I won’t list them all, but the following two questions should give an idea as to the basic gist of them:
- Do fish suffer when they are caught using standard fly fishing techniques?
- Is angling cruel?
I have explored these types of questions in at least four posts on my blog (see links to them at the bottom of this post). And, frankly, I’ve been a bit disappointed at the lack of response. It seems like it is a topic that fly anglers do not want to discuss. I guess I can’t really blame them, who wants to think about their possible cruelty?
Over the years, the discussion has usually hinged on the aspect of whether or not fish feel pain. Various experiments have been carried out, and, depending on where one stands on the issue, various conclusions have been reached. One thing everyone seems to agree on is that “we” are right and “they” are wrong.
Which perfectly illustrates how the issue has been exacerbated through an “Us” versus “Them” mentality. Much of the writing produced in the debate has come from a person who is passionate about one side or the other, typically either someone from the angling community or someone from an animal rights group.
This is as good as spot as any to address two important, and quite different, terms: animal rights and animal welfare. Many groups espousing animal rights believe that animals have equal rights with humans (and in some extreme cases, an animal’s “rights” trump a human’s). The most well known group in favor of animal rights is PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals). Animal welfare advocates believe that animals can have benefits to humans, but that the animal should be treated as humanely as possible, give the situation. One of the biggest groups supporting animal welfare is AVMA (American Veterinary Medical Association). These two groups are often at odds with each other.
Many anglers hear the words “animal welfare” and mistakenly think “animal rights” and begin bashing the views of those speaking on behalf of the welfare of animals. In a research paper from 2007 titled “Animal welfare perspectives on recreational angling” by Steven J. Cooke and Lynne U. Sneddon, they state that “informed anglers and fisheries managers can adopt practices to improve the welfare of angled fish.” They do not advocate the eradication of catch and release, but rather suggest that certain methods be observed to reduce potential pain and suffering. Many animal welfare groups are not against recreational angling.
One of the things most often missing in the debate is clear (to the lay person), reasoned (data, not emotion) and unbiased information concerning the issue. Enter Dr. Braithwaite and her book, Do Fish Feel Pain?
To illustrate a point made above, this is from the first paragraph of the preface, in which Braithwaite describes reactions from an Op-Ed piece she published in the Los Angeles Times regarding fish pain:
After the article appeared, the newspaper and I received letters and emails. These were of two sorts. Some told me that I was persecuting anglers by spreading untruths and myths—wasn’t it clear to everyone that fish don’t feel pain? But the others wanted to know why I bothered to investigate the question—wasn’t it clear to everyone that fish do feel pain?
This is an interesting reaction, in which it is clear to pretty much everyone, except for those who are most worried about the potential for scientific results to change their recreational lifestyle, that fish feel pain.
But that wasn’t her point. Rather than tell you about her point, I’ll let her speak for herself.
I had a certain amount of sympathy with both camps. I could identify with those who believed I was threatening the angling community. That was not my intention, but there had been a great deal of inaccurate information written about research on pain in fish so it was understandable that some people were being defensive. On the other hand, how were the others to know that no scientific analysis of even the basics of fish pain had been conducted before the turn of this century?
Those polarized reactions, which also played out on various websites, prompted me to wonder whether there was need for a fuller account of the science behind the fish pain debate. The result is this book.
My goal in writing this book has been to provide the background to promote informed discussion. Like other animal welfare debates, constructively arguing about fish welfare requires that we understand the issues, that we review evidence and discuss this appropriately. In the book, I examine what we know so far about pain in fish, and whether it is meaningful to discuss fish welfare at all. After reading this book, I hope you will be in a position to make up your own mind. I have no axe to grind—I choose to eat fish and I experiment on them, but while I have been fishing in the past, I am not an active angler though I have many friends and colleagues who are.
This is a difficult topic to cover, and one that will take great skill to do it justice. Having spent much time on my own reading, and trying to write, about the topic, I know that it is more than just the science behind pain. There are at least three branches of inquiry involved when tackling the topic: science, psychology and philosophy. Braithwaite also realizes this when she says, “As the book began to take shape, it became clear that the fish pain debate probes questions about science, welfare and ethics.”
I am looking forward to the continued reading, exploring and writing about this new book. From what I have read so far (the preface and chapter 1), I believe Dr. Braithwaite when she says she has no axe to grind. I believe this book could be a great asset to the serious inquirer.
I will probably post updates for each chapter or two (there are seven chapters in the book, containing 184 pages).
The book is published by Oxford University Press. The bulletin from Oxford Press says it’s available May 20. However, Amazon is selling copies (I don’t know if they are shipping yet).
Full disclosure: I received a free review copy, although I do not know the author and am in no way affiliated with Oxford University Press or any of its designees.
These are the posts where I have started talking about the topic already:
http://scarles.org/blog/cutthroat-stalker/1173/fish-pain-here-we-go-again/
http://scarles.org/blog/cutthroat-stalker/1186/hooking-things-survey/
http://scarles.org/blog/cutthroat-stalker/1246/css-double-dog-dare-why-not-birdermen/
http://scarles.org/blog/cutthroat-stalker/2120/gotta-again/







This fish pain thing could turn the whole angling community into dry fly fishers. If I remember right, it was John Betts of Colorado who started fishing with pointless hooks several years ago. The hooks he used had an eye at both ends. No point and no barb. The name of the game was to just get a fish to rise and then the angler pulled the fly away. There was actually an article in one of the magazines titled, “Pointless Fly Fishing.”
I wonder if this type of fishing would be acceptable to PETA? Probably not. I’m sure they could claim it torments and frustrates the fish and makes them use energy without getting nutrition for their efforts.
Hi Robert – I appreciate you taking the time to comment on this. I (hazily) remember the “pointless” fishing as well (can’t remember the anglers name or the article, just the concept). For someone like me, who gets 85% pleasure from the take, I might be able to do something like that. I doubt PETA would find it acceptable because it would be some form of “taunting,” etc. However, I would imagine many of the animal welfare groups wouldn’t have a problem. From what I’ve been able to gather so far, most animal welfare groups don’t have a major problem with recreational angling as it stands. Something to keep our eyes on though.
Hey Scott,
You do know what the late Kurt Kobain of Nirvana says in his song “something in the way” don’t you? It’s okay to eat fish ’cause they don’t have any feelings.
Just spying on you again
If he said it it’s the gospel truth right?
HA!
In reality I don’t mind one way or the other, fishing for me is like drinking a glass bottled Coke….total nostalgia every time.
Hope all is well.
Good to hear form you Boone! I rolled past your place at about 5:30 AM a couple of weeks ago heading to Stanley looking for steelhead. Probably about the only similarity between what Cobain and I put in our mouth would be fish
Take care.
I admit I had a good belly laugh over that last comment Scott.
Scott,
Thanks for book referral. I just finished it. Dr. Braithwaite provides a pretty compelling arguement, backed up by what appears to be scientifically valid experiments. I know I will be modifying my catch and release techniques in the future based on my new perceptions after reading this book.
You know, a lot of the books you recommend are those warm and fuzzy novels, historical or how-to reads. But a few are meant to be reality checks (e.g. Something’s Fishy and An Entirely Synthetic Fish) This is definitely one of those.
Thanks again.
Hi Ray! I’m glad you liked it. (I’ll try to get a better mix to balance the warm fuzzy stuff.) I too think she makes a great case. I need to get off my duff and finish my reviews of the book. I planned on doing one for every 1-2 chapters. This magazine thing has kind of kept me from my blog though. Enjoy what’s left of your Memorial Day Weekend!